Teary Oberon

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  How Have you Counted your time for Pioneering?

  by jehu or jehonadab in

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  2. scandals

  just woundering how have you counted your time in field service especially if you were pioneering?.

  would like to see if any of you were on the same page as i was.

  with so much to do, like reading all the watchtower and awake each month and the bible reading each week.

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  Teary Oberon

  Wow...the dishonesty from many of these posters is really just astonishing. I personally would never hire any of you guys to my business.

  Just because you don't agree with the theological reasons behind a practice, that doesn't give you an excuse to lie and exagerate. God would certainly hate you lying and exagerating far more than he would you just handing in a simple record of your activities. If you pledge to do pioneer hours, then keep your word and do pioneer hours. If you only did 1 hour of preaching, then be honest and say you only did 1 hour. If you did no preaching at all, then be honest and say you did no preaching. If you did preach but just don't feel like giving anybody your record, then just be honest and say that you don't want to keep service records. It might raise some eyebrows but still, it is HONEST.

  Also reminds Teary of his dear old grandfather (RIP). When I got done with his ranch chores for the day, my grandfather would ask him straight up: "how much did you work today?" Now I did not bull**** him like some people on this thread certainly would by including stupid things like: time to wake up; time to brush teeth; time to eat breakfast; time to shower; nap time; ect. No, I told him that I would work, we both understood what work meant, and so I told him exactly how much time I spent working (even if it wasn't that much).
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  Watchtower STUDY EDITION - Vehicle for Vitriol and REALLY crazy statements?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is it me or do i notice that all the weird and hateful cultish statements are now appearing in the 'study edition' washtowels?.

  anointed are nuts - august 15, 2011 watchtower (the study edition) pg 22 qfr: memorial partakers.

  this is the number.

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  Teary Oberon

  "You know, Sapphy really dislikes it when a poster refers to him/herself in the third person."

  Teary always finds that annoying too. People that speak in the third person just seem totally whacko if you ask Teary.

  "She finds it especially annoying when said poster is linking to their own website."

  What Teary links to is directly related to the original post of this thread. It also saves space on the thread by allowing Teary to post his thousands of words there instead of here.

  "Sapphy hopes Teary will understand that calling hate speech "hate speech" is not hate speech."

  Of course Teary understands that, it is just that he hasn't seen any examples of "hate speech" from the Witnesses yet. But if you consider the Bible and Paul calling apostates "mentally diseased" hate speech, then that is your choice.

  "The poster called James thought that the poster called Teary had left the discussion board called JWN never to return..."

  Tearys are like cats -- they have multiple lives. So when one dies or goes away, another can just take his place.
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  Watchtower STUDY EDITION - Vehicle for Vitriol and REALLY crazy statements?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is it me or do i notice that all the weird and hateful cultish statements are now appearing in the 'study edition' washtowels?.

  anointed are nuts - august 15, 2011 watchtower (the study edition) pg 22 qfr: memorial partakers.

  this is the number.

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  Teary Oberon

  You know, Teary already had an article written discussing the "mentally diseased" nonsense, but thanks to this thread he also went and wrote an article dealing with the OP's quotes from the Nov. 15, 2011 WT Study Edition.

  http://tearsofoberon.blogspot.com/2011/10/elders-should-slaughter-all-apostates.html

  And here is the article discussing the "mentally diseased" issue:

  http://tearsofoberon.blogspot.com/2011/09/laying-to-rest-mental-disease-nonsense.html

  Heck, Teary might even dedicate a post to Punk's first quote about Memorial partakers if there is a demand =P
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  School Ties?

  by Think About It in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a movie on right now called school ties- starring brendan fraser.

  the movie is about a "jewish" boy who goes off to a wasp college, but hides his jewish background from his friends and girlfriend.

  he becomes very popular and accepted by them, until his friends find out he is jewish.

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  Teary Oberon

  Who is reading between lines? Teary is just asking some perfectly logical questions of you:

  1. If it is good to hide and be ashamed of a JW background, then is it also good to hide and be ashamed of a Jewish background (since you used both in your comparison)?

  2. Can you really consider people to be worthwhile friends if they abandon you based on past religious affiliation that you don't even practice anymore?

  3. How do you know that they kicked you out based on your past religious affiliation alone? Maybe the just plain didn't like you, or maybe you yourself did something to cause them to not like you anymore and kick you out?
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  Watchtower STUDY EDITION - Vehicle for Vitriol and REALLY crazy statements?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is it me or do i notice that all the weird and hateful cultish statements are now appearing in the 'study edition' washtowels?.

  anointed are nuts - august 15, 2011 watchtower (the study edition) pg 22 qfr: memorial partakers.

  this is the number.

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  Teary Oberon

  Doesn't anybody else find the original post a bit ironic?

  The title of this thread is:

  "Vehicle for Vitriol and REALLY crazy statements"

  And yet what labels does the creator use in his very first sentence?

  "weird," "hateful," "cultish," "washtowels"

  Remember the ancient proverb: don't cut off your nose to spite your face, i.e., don't go around accusing others of being hateful but then act twice as hateful yourself in making the accusations.
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  School Ties?

  by Think About It in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a movie on right now called school ties- starring brendan fraser.

  the movie is about a "jewish" boy who goes off to a wasp college, but hides his jewish background from his friends and girlfriend.

  he becomes very popular and accepted by them, until his friends find out he is jewish.

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  Teary Oberon

  1. Since you set up the comparison, are you implying that the Jewish boy should have also been ashamed of his Jewish background and hidden it from everybody?

  2. If you have a JW background but don't in any way act like a JW anymore, and if you had already built up friends before it got out that you used to be a JW, then it sounds to Teary like you just had really crappy and judgmental friends that you were better off without. Either that, or they voted you out for reasons other than your JW background and you are just using it now as a way to justify your rejection, i.e., scapegoating.
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  Is it possible for an apostate to get reindoctrinated?

  by foolsparadise in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and if so why?.

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  Teary Oberon

  And it makes Outlaw look like (forgive the language) a complete idiot.

  Does he really not understand the difference between secular STUDY OF religion and religious teaching itself?

  All the more reason to not waste time on forums like this...
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  Man jailed for posting religious abuse on Internet

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  recent news item in the uk.

  this guy received a 8 month jail sentence which case was prosecuted under "hate crime" laws.

  this is a very similar situation to the recent case that cedars, amelia, cantleave and others have pursued in hampshire with the police.

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  Teary Oberon

  And yet the danger of laws like that is: "who gets to decide what is acceptable speech and what isn't? Who do you give the power to?"

  That is one of the reasons why the Americans adopted the 1st amendment in their constitution in the first place, because giving any single person or group of persons power like that will inevitably lead to abuse and supression.
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  Is it possible for an apostate to get reindoctrinated?

  by foolsparadise in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and if so why?.

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  Teary Oberon

  Outlaw still can't read or understand the concepts of "scholarly reference" and "single terms having multiple definitions depending on the context."

  And just because of that, Teary gets the impression that this forum isn't worth his time. Discussions are much more enjoyable when both sides are literate. Peace out.

  --Teary
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  Man jailed for posting religious abuse on Internet

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  recent news item in the uk.

  this guy received a 8 month jail sentence which case was prosecuted under "hate crime" laws.

  this is a very similar situation to the recent case that cedars, amelia, cantleave and others have pursued in hampshire with the police.

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  Teary Oberon

  That never answered the actual question.

  Is it acceptable to remove the fundamental freedoms of speech as embodied in the American 1st amendment, if that removal means that the Witnesses will be prevented from preaching or discussing ex-members?

  Teary has gotten the impression from several here that they believe in the affirmative.